Friday, March 02, 2007
Fate
I do not believe in fate. I believe in free will, and that the actions that we take push forward our lives and the world as a whole. I do how ever find the concept of fate to be very intriguing. Two television shows that I do like are Smallville and Heroes. Smallville in the past was good and then got crappy and has been so far really good this season. Heroes is one of my favorite shows. What attracts me to these show is the fate concept. In Smallville we have the legend of Superman which is commonly known. I am a huge superhero fan have seen every superhero movie good/bad. What I like about the show is that each of the characters has a destiny that they don't know, but we the audience do know. I enjoy seeing the characters become who they must become, and how they become those people. Heroes is almost the opposite. The main characters are on a journey toward their destiny, and we must go along neither of us knows where it leads. What I like about Fate is that there is an unknown outside force pushing these people in a direction whether they want to go or not. Some my say that it is God. I rather like to believe that it is the over all good of humanity pushing fate on the characters. Creating good and evil. So that good and evil can battle and one can triumph over the other. This is what some people believe. I think that it is the way people want it to be. The truth at least my view of it is good does not always triumph over evil. We would like it to. It is nice to believe that some watching force is making good win. In reality it is up to us to decide who wins in the battle between good an evil. A responsibility we may not want, but we do have.I love the Idea of fate it is so very interesting, but not real in my view. We, you and me, have the power to decide who wins in the battle between good and evil. What will you do to support your side?
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This is a very interesting topic.
I believe in destiny and I also believe in free will. Does it make sense for me to believe in both? I'm not sure, but I do!! lol.
BTW...thanks for the comment on my blog! I love being challenged, and the question you posed had challenged me.
Peace & Love! Have a good weekend!
i think that there is a certain amount of luck in life. i don't know if that is quite the same as fate- but i do know that not everything in life happens according to plan. i agree that we have control over our destiny- but take a look at the game of poker- you have to be skilled to win a tournament but there is also a certain amount of luck involved due to the random nature of the cards dealt. life throws some curve balls and we determine our destinies based on how we deal with them. thought provoking post.
Fate can also simply what happens to you at any given moment; "That was his fate", as well as destiny: "That turned out to be his destiny." I think it's when you resign yourself to the choices of others, that problems start.
I don't believe in fate as the Ancient Greeks did in which your destiny is mapped out in front of you (Oedipus Rex anyone?) I think we have a freedom of choice which isn't always the same as freedom of will. I think about those kids who were kidnapped and coerced into believing that their parents didn't want them or children who are abused because they are tricked into thinking that loved ones will be killed if they tell. Their will is severely inpinged upon; they aren't free in a way I understand free, but then a similar understanding could be said of any of us who have endured trauma and been forever shaped by it. Yet choice always remains. Does this lead to a spiritual destiny or an ultimate design? I should say yes, but much of it is still so mysterious to me. We are complex creatures and life rarely makes sense. Therefore, I think we cannot discount one or the other even though I have seen some things happen that seemed destined to be and others came out of a sudden choice. Lord, I'm losing myself!
I don't believe in fate either. I believe our individual futures roll out before us entirely dependent on what we do now, -and what we steer our individual ships into-.
I sometimes wonder about time travel and alternate dimensions. I don't believe there are alternate "me's" running around on alternate Earths, fulfilling the alternate possibilities I didn't cause by not turning left back there at the light. I believe the future has not happened yet, therefore I cannot go there. That some entity has it all mapped out, but I have free will, flies in the face of all logic, as I can fathom it. I believe time is a measuring device, not a filing system for tangible realities that will be accessible with Windows 2225. If I'm wrong, I won't be alive in 2225, and shouldn't allow such things to effect my decisions.
I do believe in Karma. But, Karma is a whole 'nother discussion.
"What will you do to support your side?"
I believe that there are basic rules to live by that enhance cooperation and security in our shared experience in this life. We all bring our rules with us into every circumstance we encounter. What I will do is try to bring the good rules to each new circumstance. I will remember that others' achievement does not deprive me. I will not buy the line that I need to harm others to help myself. I will remember that I will get my due rewards for my due dilligence. I will slip occasionally, but I will forgive and correct myself.
Above all else I will remember that I only live once, that I know -for certain-. So, I will try to live this life such that I will look back with the fewest regrets when I depart.
-kb
I'll do what I always do. I will try not to harm anyone or anything with every decision I make. I don't know about fate, it it's there fine, but I don't rely on it.
There's a theory within physics that time is not a consequential thing, and the fact that we perceive it linerally is only an illusion. What that infers is that we have already made what choices we will make. I'm writing this comment, for example, because this is always the comment that I write to this post, or so some scientists would tell me.
If there is such a thing as free will, my feeling is that it is something considerably different than what we generally conceive it to be. Instead of active decision-making, maybe it' sort of an inherent bias of the organism.
Theory: Time may not be consequential (sic), but existence is.
The linear concept of time, IMO is the nature of "time" as we know it: a man-made measuring device, based on the Earth's orbit around the sun. A tool to make meeting at Barney's at 8:00 possible, and agree when the last time we met at 8:00 at Barney's was.
That isn't to say that the distance between 1:00 and 2:00 is necessarily a straight line, ever. An arc or an ess can be considered linear, as it represents a path, always moveing in one direction, never reversing its travel from point "A" to point "B." Yes, an arc spanning an inch will straighten out to more than an inch, but its increments must be fractions of an inch, because point "B" had not been achieved. In that way, the increments of measurement are flexible, based on the path between points A & B. "Linear" does not mean a straight line.
Of course, I hold with the theory that time never reverses, nor its path ever cross itself, for lack of evidence to the contrary. Therefore, what I have a problem with regarding "fate" is how any increment between 1 and 2 can exceed 2. If it can't, there can be no foregone conclusions. No: "that's how it was supposed to be's." -This- is the real man-made perspective: assuming that because it is so is because it was foregone.
That -this is- because of -what already happened- is logical.
Aren't the concepts associating "time" and "planar dimension" really using "time" for lack of an appropriate word for the development (unfolding?) of existence? I expect -that- may be something other than "time," as the accepted definition of the word limits it. As I see it, we need a new word.
"Inherent bias" is an interesting concept, but I don't think it's evidence of foregone conclusions. We can't look at any species of mammal and deny biologically inherent propensities, but individual destinies remain unpredictable.
-kb
fate... destiny...
above all - i believe in providence. there is a larger synchronicity at work. nothing is purely random. this i believe was a majoy underlining theme in Babel, where it was shown that even the random ran through a common thread.
my two cents.
fate... destiny...
above all - i believe in providence. there is a larger synchronicity at work. nothing is purely random. this i believe was a majoy underlining theme in Babel, where it was shown that even the random ran through a common thread.
my two cents.
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